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Interests vs. Positions: Guidelines for “Getting to Yes” and Avoiding Negotiation Jiu-Jitsu

Posted: November 29th, 2021

By: Joe Campolo, Esq. email

There is a single orange sitting on a kitchen table and two sisters want it. What is the solution to appease both sisters?

  1. You can split the orange in half and give one half to each sister.
  2. The older sister can receive the whole orange.
  3. Flip a coin, and the winning sister will receive the whole orange.

Let’s say you split the orange in half to be fair to both sisters. Now, each sister has half of an orange. The younger sister proceeds to eat her half, but still feels hungry afterward. She throws the peel in the garbage. The older sister uses her half to zest the peel and make an orange cake. She has no use for the orange itself, so she throws it out. In the attempt to make it fair for the sisters by giving them each half of the orange, we’ve just committed a crucial negotiation error: we’ve assumed each sister’s position and incorrectly guessed their interests.

If we asked the older sister what she wanted to do with the orange, she might have said she needed the peel for her cake. If we asked the younger sister why she needed the orange, she might have replied that she wanted a snack. If we had asked these questions, we would have discovered a fourth solution to appease both sisters: one receives the peel, and one receives the fruit itself. A win-win scenario.

Of course, not every negotiation is this simple. However, understanding the difference between a person’s interests and positions could be the difference between negotiation success…or a miserable flop. A win-win negotiation is one in which both parties find alignment between their interests to create value for both sides. A negotiator’s position might be what they want (an orange), but their interest is why they want it (to eat it or use to make a cake).

In one of my previous negotiation blogs, I discussed how to utilize active listening as a powerful negotiation tool to gather information. Now, you can use active listening to gather information, and then determine a solution that aligns with the interests of both parties. Roger Fisher and William Ury outline this in their book Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In.

Here are some key considerations to find alignment:

Ask “why” and separate positions from interests

As in the orange example, don’t assume the opposing party’s position to be their underlying interest. Let’s consider an example that Fisher and Ury highlight in their book:

Two men disagree about a window: one wants it open, while the other one wants it closed. They go back and forth on leaving it open, closed, halfway shut, slightly ajar, and so on. Then a third person walks into the room and asks why the first man wants the window open. He replies that he wanted some fresh air. The third person asks the second man why he wants the window closed. He replies that he wanted to avoid the draft. The third person thinks for a moment and then proceeds to open a window in the next room, bringing in fresh air while avoiding the draft at the same time: a win-win.

When you find out the “why,” aka underlying interests, of the parties involved in a negotiation, it’s easier to find what both parties value to create a win-win scenario.

Ditch the “winner vs. loser” mentality

Too often, negotiations are viewed in black and white terms: there is a loser and a winner, and the name of the game is to “win.” Emotions run rampant, and the negotiation plays out with a “you vs. them” undercurrent. When this happens, try to frame issues as an open discussion in which the opposing party feels comfortable with you.

For example, if you’re trying to negotiate with the seller of a building you are buying, try not to get locked into a game of negotiation jiu-jitsu in which there’s a cycle of action and reaction. This happens when the seller names their price, you refuse and go lower, then they refuse and maintain their original price without budging. This mentality creates a situation where you as the buyer think the only way to win is to lock in the low price. Instead, try looking at the bigger picture and address the basic concerns of the opposing party.

Perhaps the building has issues with the roof or needs a structural upgrade. These discussions could be steered toward a suggestion for the current owner in which you imply that they are better off selling the building to you at a lower price than fixing it themselves. By framing it this way, both you and the current building owner could feel like winners.

Have your BATNA ready

We’ve talked about BATNA before on this blog. Fisher and Ury coined the term, which stands for “Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement.” Essentially, it’s a Plan B to provide negotiating power and serves as your bottom line in a negotiation. Having a BATNA at the ready helps you avoid doing negotiation jiu-jitsu in which you go back and forth with your counterpart until there is no solution to be found.

Let’s use the example of a car salesman and a would-be purchaser. If the person trying to buy a car wants to spend around $20,000 but would pay no more than $25,000, that means their BATNA is $25,000: the worst-case scenario that would still lead to a successful negotiation and outcome for both parties involved. For the salesman, their goal could be to sell a car for $27,000 but their BATNA could be $22,000. Therefore, if the salesman and the person interested in the car negotiate with their BATNAs in mind, the car could be sold for somewhere between $22,000 and $25,000.

In Summary…

Distinguishing what someone wants and why they want it, using win-win tactics, and having a BATNA prepared can help you avoid negotiation jiu-jitsu to gain a favorable outcome for both yourself and your negotiation counterpart. The next time you find yourself locked in a negotiation that seems like it has no end, try to dig deeper and uncover the underlying interests of the person you are negotiating with. You might find a hidden path to “getting to yes.”

CMM Closes Complicated Asset Purchase in Collaboration with Tax Advisors

Posted: November 22nd, 2021

Complications are inherent in any M&A transaction, but CMM understands that lawyers need to be deal makers, not deal breakers. Our attorneys work tirelessly to keep deals moving efficiently toward closing despite the challenges. Quite often, this requires us to work closely with other professionals to help our clients overcome the hurdles they face throughout the course of their transactions.

CMM’s M&A team recently did just that in a multi-million-dollar APA transaction – collaborating with our client’s tax advisors to close the deal. Our client is a loss control and safety service provider in the insurance industry, servicing clients nationwide to ensure that customers are provided with the most up-to-date systems that fit their geographic needs. The deal involved the sale of our client’s assets to a larger business consortium in the mortgage and insurance industry.

On its face, the transaction was a fairly straightforward asset purchase deal but grew significantly more complicated due to income tax issues as well as other issues stemming from our client’s continued equity ownership interest in the purchasing entity after closing. Despite these issues, Partner Don Rassiger led the CMM team and worked seamlessly with our client’s tax advisors to untangle the complicated web of tax issues and bring the deal across the finish line.

CMM attorneys look at the bigger picture and examine how collaboration can foster effective results for clients in a holistic manner. Learn more about CMM’s unique M&A practice and the recent deals we’ve closed here.

CMM Prevails on Behalf of Suffolk County Town in First Amendment Lawsuit

Posted: November 8th, 2021

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Contrary to popular belief, the First Amendment doesn’t protect your right to say whatever you want, whenever you want, in any context. We won’t get into a constitutional lesson here, but suffice it to say that there’s a difference between protected and unprotected speech. For instance, you might be able to air your concerns about a municipal workplace policy and be protected under the First Amendment. However, attacking the person in charge of that policy with a few colorful curse words and some threats thrown in for good measure? Good luck convincing a court that your speech is protected.

CMM’s latest municipal liability success involved just that, the plaintiff being a disgruntled former animal shelter volunteer who brought an action against the Town (CMM’s client), on the basis that his First Amendment rights were violated when he was dismissed.

As a volunteer, the plaintiff had signed a Volunteer Policy and Procedure Manual that he was required to adhere to. But throughout his time at the shelter, the Town received several complaints about the plaintiff and conducted at least six investigations into his actions. These investigations ranged from allegations of possible harassment, multiple Workplace Violence Incident Report Forms, and disturbing text messages and social media posts. The plaintiff made multiple threats on Facebook using profanity aimed at employees, wrote offensive comments about Town investigators in large letters on the side of his truck, and shouted inside the shelter that he wished an employee would have a heart attack.

Following three years of investigations into these actions and the continued harassment of shelter and Town employees, a Town investigator recommended terminating the plaintiff as a volunteer. The plaintiff then filed suit against the Town, contending that his termination was retaliation for speaking publicly on shelter misconduct.

To prevail, the plaintiff needed to establish that, among other things, (1) the speech was protected by the First Amendment, and (2) there was a causal connection between the protected speech and the Town’s adverse action against him.

CMM’s team, led by Senior Partner and Chair of our Municipal Liability practice group Scott Middleton, along with Associate Richard DeMaio, moved for summary judgment (essentially, a request that the Court dismiss the case because there are no facts at issue).

Protected speech is speech in which the plaintiff engaged as a citizen on a matter of public concern. While the court found that some of the plaintiff’s speech was protected, such as speaking at public meetings and writing letters to the newspaper about shelter conditions, other forms of speech such as sending private messages to shelter employees and shouting that he hoped an employee would have a heart attack were not protected.

After parsing through the complex facts, years of investigations, and dozens of instances of speech made by the plaintiff online and at the shelter, CMM’s team was able to show that the threatening speech made in text messages and at the shelter itself were not protected under the First Amendment as the plaintiff claimed.

Thanks to CMM’s work, the court granted the motion for summary judgment, noting that CMM had established that the Town had terminated the plaintiff as a volunteer because he harassed shelter employees and violated the terms of his volunteer agreement, not because he engaged in protected speech regarding the shelter’s treatment of the animals.

Visit our Municipal Liability page to read more about other successful cases.

NYSDOL Issues New Guidance on Adult Use Cannabis and the Workplace

Posted: November 8th, 2021

By: Arthur Yermash, Esq. email

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Can an employer take action against an employee for using cannabis on the job, prohibit cannabis possession in the workplace, or drug test for cannabis? These are just some of the many questions that employers and employees have been wondering since the legalization of adult-use marijuana in New York State on March 31 via the Marijuana Regulation and Taxation Act (MRTA).

CMM previously reported on the legalization of marijuana in April, taking a look at the new legislation and the workplace concerns of many employers and employees. Now, the New York State Department of Labor (NYSDOL) has issued an FAQ addressing some of these concerns with concrete answers for common situations and questions regarding adult-use cannabis and the workplace. Here are some highlights.

Discrimination

The FAQ reiterates that the MRTA prohibits employers from discriminating against employees based on the use of cannabis outside of the workplace and outside of work hours. However, it’s important to note that employees are only protected if they are over the age of 21 since the sale, use, or transportation of cannabis by individuals under the age of 21 is still illegal in New York State. The law does not explicitly require employers to report or fire employees under the age of 21 using cannabis on the job or discipline them in any way, but an employer can take action if they choose to.

An employer is also permitted to take action against an employee if an employer would be in violation of federal law, lose a federal contract or federal funding, or be unable to provide a safe and healthy workplace as required by state and federal workplace safety laws.

Articulable Symptoms of Impairment

Employers are also permitted to take employment action if an employee has “articulable symptoms” of cannabis impairment that impacts their performance on the job. The FAQ does not provide a list of what “articulable symptoms” of cannabis impairment are, instead describing the symptoms as “observable indications” that an employee’s performance has decreased or lessened. However, the FAQ cautions employers that articulable symptoms should not be confused with a disability protected by federal and state law.

Drug Testing of Employees

The FAQ states that employers are not permitted to test for cannabis unless federal or state law requires drug testing as a mandatory requirement of the position (for example: mandatory drug testing for drivers of commercial motor vehicles).

Also, when it comes to drug testing as a basis for an “articulable symptom” of impairment, a test for cannabis usage “cannot serve as a basis for an employer’s conclusion that an employee was impaired by the use of cannabis, since such tests do not currently demonstrate impairment.” Additionally, employers cannot fire employees for the smell of cannabis alone.

Use at Work or During Work Hours

The FAQ makes it clear that employers are allowed to prohibit cannabis during work hours including paid and unpaid breaks such as lunchtime or when an employee leaves the worksite and then returns. Employers can also prohibit employees from bringing cannabis onto the property including at an employee’s desk or in a locker. If an employee is caught using cannabis on the job, it’s the employer’s decision whether to permit the employee to keep working or to take employment action. For more guidance as the NYDOL continues to develop its Office of Cannabis Management (OCM) and the rules and regulations surrounding the adult-use industry, please contact our Cannabis Law practice area chair, CMM Partner Arthur Yermash.

The information contained in this article is provided for informational purposes only and is not and should not be construed as legal advice on any subject matter. The firm provides legal advice and other services only to persons or entities with which it has established an attorney-client relationship.

Malafi Recognized with Leadership in Law Lifetime Achievement Award

Posted: October 19th, 2021

Campolo, Middleton & McCormick, LLP is delighted to announce that Senior Partner and Corporate Department Chair Christine Malafi has been honored with a 2021 Leadership in Law Lifetime Achievement Award. The Lifetime Achievement Award recognizes a senior-level attorney who has honorably represented the legal profession by exemplifying performance, leadership, integrity, and mentorship throughout their career while bettering the legal profession overall.

An advocate for both her clients and her community, Malafi earned the Lifetime Achievement Award through her dedication to the legal profession and positive impact on Long Island. As CMM’s Corporate Chair, Malafi has led the CMM legal team in closing countless M&A deals worth billions of dollars. She has vast experience advising on both buy-side and sell-side M&A transactions in a variety of industries, including technology, manufacturing, education, healthcare, and professional services. Malafi is particularly adept at working closely and strategically with clients’ other professional advisors, including accountants, bankers, and M&A advisors, as well as forging those critical relationships for clients based on the deep network of relationships she has cultivated over years in the business.

Malafi’s practice also includes advising clients on business divorce matters and a wide variety of routine and complex corporate transactions. Prior to joining the firm, Malafi was senior corporate counsel to Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc., where she handled a variety of national and international corporate and business matters, including business expansion and acquisitions. Prior to that, in 2004, she was appointed as the Suffolk County Attorney, serving as the chief legal officer of the County for eight years. In that role, Malafi supervised a team of over 65 attorneys and 50 support staff and managed a budget of $15 million. The first woman and youngest person ever to serve in the position, Malafi focused on streamlining processes, obtaining jury verdicts in favor of the County, making fewer settlements, enforcing anti-discrimination laws, and protecting children from harm.

Malafi has the unique perspective of being a corporate lawyer who spent the first half of her career as a litigator with extensive experience in municipal, insurance coverage, and fraud issues. She brings her deep understanding of litigation and the court system to all aspects of her corporate work and uses this experience to help protect clients from a variety of critical angles.

Malafi’s achievement will be featured in the November 19, 2021 special publication of Long Island Business News. Congratulations to all the honorees!

Campolo Details Economic Development Initiatives at HIA-LI Trade Show and Executive Breakfast

Posted: October 15th, 2021

Joe Campolo, CMM Managing Partner and Chairman of HIA-LI’s Long Island Innovation Park at Hauppauge Task Force (LI-IPH), spoke as a panelist at the 33rd annual HIA-LI Trade Show Executive Breakfast on October 14, 2021. Campolo spoke about the critical economic development initiatives the Task Force is tackling, including:

  • taking advantage of the LI-IPH’s “Edge City” characteristics to maximize economic development;
  • challenges and opportunities in the LI-IPH, including school district enrollment concerns and wastewater challenges;
  • the tremendous untapped economic potential of MacArthur Airport – including the $1.1 billion the airport stands to make by adding more nonstop flights for the business community. The study was spearheaded and conducted by CMM on behalf of HIA-LI.

Campolo was joined by moderator Mitch Pally, CEO of Long Island Builders Institute, and panelists Kelley Coughlan-Heck, Executive Vice Principal of TRITEC; Scott Burman, Principal of Engel Burman; and Michael Brod, Managing Director of Canoe Place Inn and Rechler Equity Partners.

CMM’s LI MacArthur Airport Survey Featured on WSHU

Posted: October 15th, 2021

By J.D. Allen

Some companies retreated from New York City to the suburbs due to the pandemic. Now, a survey of about 500 companies found there are big business opportunities to add more nonstop flights at Long Island MacArthur Airport in Islip.

For Bob Isaksen, a Melville native and market executive for business banking at Bank of America, that means more ways to bring business to Long Island.

“Business travelers much prefer nonstop air travel,” Isaksen said.

The MacArthur has three major U.S. domestic air carriers that currently provide service to 11 cities nonstop and connect to hundreds of destinations worldwide: American Airlines, Frontier Airlines and Southwest Airlines. The survey found there is appetite to expand those offerings.

The survey was conducted in August and September by HIA-LI, one of Long Island’s largest business advocacy organizations. Terri Alessi-Miceli, the group’s president and CEO, said it found corporate travel budgets could potentially expand if MacArthur airport had more flights, which could generate more than $1 billion in new airport revenue annually.

“The dynamic has changed considerably,” Alessi-Miceli said. “Many people are working from home, others getting back to work in some sort of work setting, whatever that looks like. They’re actually itching to get back [into] travel.”

“It’s really: the consumer wins,” said Joe Campolo, the group’s immediate past chair and managing partner at the Ronkonkoma-based law firm Campolo, Middleton & McCormick, LLP, which ran the survey. He said Long Island businesses would be willing to pay more to fly direct out of Islip and avoid the inconvenience of driving to LaGuardia or Kennedy airports. “There will be ancillary economic advantages to the town and the airlines for sure.”

Campolo said the goal of the survey is to make sure that the region’s business community remains viable. He said the businesses relied heavily on travel pre-COVID, especially for trade shows, and weren’t able to fly out of Islip as their airport of choice.

“One of the indicators right now, I think in a post-COVID world, is how much business travel is there actually going to be?” he said. “Zoom can only take you so far with clients, but meeting face to face is still an important part of business development.”

The survey said increased corporate travel to and from Long Island would generate…. Continue Reading

Allen, J., 2021. Long Island businesses see an opportunity to expand flights to Islip's MacArthur Airport. [online] Wshu.org. Available at: https://www.wshu.org/post/long-island-businesses-see-opportunity-expand-flights-islips-macarthur-airport#stream/0 [Accessed 15 October 2021].

LIBN: MacArthur could generate $1B more revenue by adding nonstop flights

Posted: October 15th, 2021

By Adina Genn

By adding more nonstop flights, Long Island MacArthur Airport in Islip could more than double business air travel, generating more than $1 billion in new revenue each year, according to a new survey.

That’s according to an analysis of an HIA-LI-sponsored survey issued to assess the current and future travel needs of Long Island’s business community. The survey of 504 Long Island businesses was conducted between Aug. 3 and Sept. 6 by Campolo, Middleton & McCormick, a law firm headquartered in Ronkonkoma.

Now, as more people are traveling amid the pandemic, leaders in the business community are broadcasting the analysis as part of an effort to get more airlines to understand the additional revenue opportunity they would have by bringing nonstop flights to MacArthur. The airport is owned and operated by the Town of Islip, and serves about 2 million people a year. Commercial airlines at MacArthur include Southwest, American and Frontier Airlines.

In the recent HIA-LI survey, firms reported annual travel budgets ranging from under $5,000 to more than $20,000. Currently, the firms spend an average of 36.2 percent of their overall travel budgets at MacArthur Airport. This amounts to about $1.9 million out of their average, full-year, travel budgets of $5.2 million, according to the analysis.

The survey found that with more nonstop flights at the airport, businesses travelers would increase travel out of Islip, increasing their budgets at MacArthur to 78.8 percent, a 218 percent increase. That projected annual spending would then increase to $4.1 million.

The survey conductors than applied those results to Long Island’s business sector as a whole. It projected that there were about 61,076 businesses in Suffolk County with travel budgets, and would boost their spending at the airport to as much as $532.2 million, if more nonstop flights were added.  And Nassau County’s estimated businesses with travel budgets would spend up to $530.8 million additional at MacArthur.

Those projections showed the additional $1 billion in revenue, prompting the business community to join in on a call for more nonstop flights.

“This survey clearly demonstrates Long Island MacArthur Airport’s significant untapped value,” HIA-LI President and CEO Terri Alessi-Miceli said in a statement. “Long Island business, government, and civic leaders need to join forces to expand the number of nonstop flights offered by the airport.”

“Long Island MacArthur Airport already stands as an important economic development asset for Long Island,” Richard Humann, president and CEO of H2M architects + engineers and chairperson of the HIA-LI board, said in a statement. “A key goal of this survey is to help the airport build momentum toward expanding its schedule of nonstop offerings, and that’s how we’ll put it to use.”

“The potential revenue that stands to be made from adding more nonstop flights at MacArthur Airport is staggering,” Joe Campolo said in a statement.

Campolo is the immediate past chair of HIA-LI, and managing partner at Campolo, Middleton & McCormick, and a member of the Town of Islip’s Long Island MacArthur Airport Advisory Board.  He said that with his team, he “spearheaded this survey to demonstrate the power and cohesiveness of the Long Island business community. Together, we can effectuate this monumental step forward for our region and economy.”

The airport’s leadership seemed to appreciate the call for more nonstop flights.

“HIA-LI is a tremendous positive force and advocate for economic prosperity for all of Long Island,” Town of Islip Supervisor Angie Carpenter said in a statement. “They understand that Long Island MacArthur Airport represents an important asset and an economic engine for our entire region both now and in the future.”

That kind of support from the business community is taking place elsewhere in the United States.

“Around the country we see chambers of commerce, convention and visitors’ bureaus, local governments, regional economic development associations, universities, and elected officials coordinating with their airports in a cooperative and unified manner, pledging support and frequently marketing dollars to ensure the success of new airline service and the ‘Fly Local’ use of airport assets,” Airport Commissioner Shelley LaRose-Arken said in a statement.

“Business travelers much prefer nonstop air travel,” Bob Isaksen, market executive for business banking at Bank of America and an HIA-LI board member, said in a statement. “We want this survey to send a strong message to airlines about the payoff they’ll receive by deepening their commitment to Long Island MacArthur Airport.”

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